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Jan Swafford Returns with his profound insights into the personal lives of composers of the Classic to the Modern eras

Anthony Plog, host
Eddie Ludema, producer

Date posted: Aug 17, 2025

Jan Swafford is a distinguished American author and composer, known for his insightful biographies of great composers like Charles Ives, Ludwig van Beethoven, and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. With degrees from Harvard and Yale, he's made significant contributions to classical music literature. His works, including the Vintage Guide to Classical Music and "Language of the Spirit," reveal the rich narratives behind the music we love. His unique insights and deep understanding of these composers illuminate their artistic journeys in a way that resonates with both music lovers and scholars alike.

Part 1

In our conversation, we explore the fascinating lives of Haydn and Mozart, delving into their prolific output and the support systems that fueled their creativity. Jan highlights how Haydn composed to commission, leading to his astonishing catalog of works, while debunking myths about Mozart's talent and lifestyle. “He worked himself to death because his body couldn’t handle it anymore,” Jan reflects on Mozart’s relentless pursuit of excellence.

The podcast theme music, Four Sierra Scenes, written by Anthony Plog, is taken from Crystal Records S205, copyright ©1980 Crystal Records Inc., and is used by permission. Unauthorized duplication is not permitted.